Fussing on antagonist levels
I agree. He is the main antagonist, because he is the true mastermind and Randall's boss. His main goal is to get POWER and MONEY.
- Because of these editing wars by users like Mctalwolfer, Aadit.arora and Xmike920 on the antagonist levels of Waternoose and Randall, which antagonist levels do the characters really have? --Lightening McQueen (talk) 21:18, January 24, 2014 (UTC)
- Though Mctalwolfer has deliberately contradicted himself as to what kind of antagonist he thinks a character is on other wikis, both on the same wiki and across wikis, he has been consistent here and on one other wiki in stating that Waternoose is the main antagonist. But I concur that that the time has come to settle this issue.
- Part of that will be through listing exactly what both characters do and say in the movie. That way we can decide objectively each one's ranking in the movie: first, second or equal. Another part will be deciding how "deep" to go with antagonist levels. Do we keep it simple with two levels like "main antagonist(s)" and "minor antagonist(s)" or do we add a middle level of secondary? I vote we don't go any further than that so we can avoid the overly-fussy and ridiculous things I've seen like "the (former) main, but semi, antagonist" and "(maybe-former) secondary antagonist, with Waternoose standing infront of him".
In the movie, he's just referred to and credited as "Waternoose", but in The Art of Monsters, Inc., his full name of Henry J. Waternoose is given. At no point is he referred to as "the Third" (III). He states "This company has been in my family for three generations". However, that does not automatically mean that his father was "Henry J. Waternoose, Jr.", nor his grandfather was "Henry J. Waternoose, Sr." His father and grandfather could have been named Fred and Barney for all we know. In some families, it's customary to name children as Junior and beyond, but not in all families.